Issues/Problems: The perennial issues Large scale archival data storage Including data models and access front ends Would other access methods like rsync or distribution on DVD be useful? Operations routeviews is like a service provider without a data plane all control plane (mod transit to get the data back) contrast with something like AMP (http://mna.nlnar.net) Like a SP w/o a control plane (all data plane) many "service provider like" problems Needs NOC-like functionality Person-power issues